A2 vill inte starta

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A2 vill inte starta

Post by EjjE » 22 May 2020 22:55

Hej
Min A2:a har stått stilla 4-5 månader med underhållsladdning, skulle startade den i torsdags, den startade och stannade direkt.

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VIN: License Plate: XEH145


Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 8Z0 820 043 E
Component and/or Version: A2-KLIMAVOLLAUTOMAT 0512
Software Coding:
Work Shop Code:
VCID: 3878B0CF18402CFEA5-254E
1 Fault Found:

00818 - Sensor for Evaporator Outlet Temperature (G263)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
Wednesday,20,May,2020,17:31:12:05031
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VIN: License Plate: XEH145



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Chassis Type: 8Z - Audi A2 (2000 > 2005)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 18 37 45 46 56 57 75 76 77

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 045-906-019-ANY.clb
Part No: 045 906 019 D
Component: 1,2l R3 EDC G001DS 1452
Coding: 00005
Shop #: WSC 02154
VCID: 16245E7772943A8E97-4A9C
WAUZZZ8Z73N007553 AUZ7Z0B2096903

3 Faults Found:
18058 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1650 - 35-10 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
18043 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1635 - 35-10 - Missing Message from A/C Controller - Intermittent
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
P1570 - 35-00 -
Readiness: 0 0 X X X

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 6N0-927-735.lbl
Part No: 6N0 927 735 D
Component: DS085 Getriebe 3081
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 397EB5CB234A35F65A-0960

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8Z0-907-379-MK60.lbl
Part No: 8Z0 907 379 C
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Coding: 0019474
Shop #: WSC 02154 785 00200
VCID: 4898C00F38A05C7ED5-5072

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8Z0 907 379 C
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101

1 Fault Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
015 - Cannot Be Tested at this Time - MIL ON

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8Z0-959-655.lbl
Part No: 8Z0 959 655 F
Component: Airbag Front+Kopf 5005
Coding: 00302
Shop #: WSC 02154
VCID: 4FAAEB138DCE8B4694-5072

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8Z0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 8Z0 920 931 D
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D03
Coding: 01135
Shop #: WSC 40947
VCID: 3E74A6D73A6412CE6F-5072
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41 Faults Found:
01039 - Coolant Temperature Sensor (G2)
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
01039 - Coolant Temperature Sensor (G2)
29-10 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
00667 - Ambient Temperature Signal
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00667 - Ambient Temperature Signal
29-00 - Short to Ground
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17)
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G)
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
00-00 - -
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
00-00 - -
01128 - Immobilizer Pickup Coil (D2)
35-10 - - - Intermittent
01177 - Engine Control Unit
65-10 - Unauthorized - Intermittent
01176 - Key
65-10 - Unauthorized - Intermittent
01177 - Engine Control Unit
49-00 - No Communications
00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D)
31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01302 - Control Module for Telematic (J499)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
49-00 - No Communications
01304 - Radio
49-00 - No Communications
01314 - Engine Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01316 - ABS Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01319 - Control Module for Distance Control (J428)
49-00 - No Communications
01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01325 - Control Module for Tire Pressure Monitoring (J502)
49-00 - No Communications
01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
49-00 - No Communications
01327 - Control Module for Parking Aid (J446)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
80-10 - Single-Wire Operation - Intermittent
01311 - Information Data Bus
37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
01311 - Information Data Bus
80-00 - Single-Wire Operation
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
53-00 - Supply Voltage Too Low
00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266)
29-10 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
61166 - Unknown Error Code
Unknown - 27-10 - - Intermittent
01179 - Incorrect Key Programming
35-00 - -
01288 - Terminal 30; Steering Assist
08-00 - Control Limit Surpassed

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:21)--------------------------

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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by lupobupo » 23 May 2020 00:11

Startspärren aktiverades. Så det är förklaringen till att den dog. Men helt sjukt mycket mystiska felkoder! Instrumentet verkar juh buggat ur fullständigt, och där i sitter immobilizern på en A2a.
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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by irover » 23 May 2020 11:59

Ser ut som den listat alla felkoder som finns. Skulle det hjälpa radera dem och testa igen? Kan man byta klustret till ett annat?
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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by EjjE » 23 May 2020 12:08

Jag har testat att nolla alla koder men de kommer tillbaka.
"Färddatorn" tänder inte upp när nyckel ar på, startar jag radion så står det "SAFE"

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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by perA2 » 23 May 2020 12:19

Har du ett hamsterbo i instrumentpanelen?

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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by lupobupo » 23 May 2020 12:58

EjjE wrote:
23 May 2020 12:08
Jag har testat att nolla alla koder men de kommer tillbaka.
"Färddatorn" tänder inte upp när nyckel ar på, startar jag radion så står det "SAFE"

:shock:
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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by irover » 23 May 2020 13:14

Undras om det kan vara nånting med spänningsmatning till instrumentet?
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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by EjjE » 23 May 2020 16:32

Har plockat ut instrument cluster, inga hamstrar där, allt set ok ut förutom lite ärgat enligt bild.
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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by EjjE » 24 May 2020 15:36

YES, lade en ny lödning där det hade ärgat på baksidan av instrument cluster.

Nu fungerar den igen :D :D :D


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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by EjjE » 24 May 2020 20:49

Hade fortfarande en gäng fel kvar plus airbag dök också upp............. :shock:

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VCDS Version: 15.7.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150904
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VIN: WAUZZZ8Z73N007553 License Plate: XEH145
Mileage: 312210km-193998mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 8Z (8Z - Audi A2 (2000 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 18 37 45 46 56 57 75 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ8Z73N007553 Mileage: 312210km-193998miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 045-906-019-ANY.clb
Part No: 045 906 019 D
Component: 1,2l R3 EDC G001DS 1452
Coding: 00005
Shop #: WSC 02154
VCID: 16245E7772943A8E97-4A3A
WAUZZZ8Z73N007553 AUZ7Z0B2096903

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 X X X

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 6N0-927-735.lbl
Part No: 6N0 927 735 D
Component: DS085 Getriebe 3081
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 397EB5CB234A35F65A-0960

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8Z0-907-379-MK60.lbl
Part No: 8Z0 907 379 C
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Coding: 0019474
Shop #: WSC 02154 785 00200
VCID: 4898C00F38A05C7ED5-5072

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No: 8Z0 820 043 E
Component: A2-KLIMAVOLLAUTOMAT 0512
VCID: 3878B0CF18402CFEA5-254E

6 Faults Found:
00710 - Defroster Flap Positioning Motor (V107)
41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent
01271 - Positioning Motor for Temperature Flap (V68)
41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent
00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113)
41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent
00601 - Potentiometer On Positioning Motor for Central Flap (G112)
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00600 - Potentiometer On Positioning Motor for Temperature Flap (G92)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00818 - Sensor for Evaporator Outlet Temperature (G263)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8Z0-959-655.lbl
Part No: 8Z0 959 655 F
Component: Airbag Front+Kopf 5005
Coding: 00302
Shop #: WSC 02154
VCID: 4FAAEB138DCE8B4694-5072

1 Fault Found:
00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95)
32-10 - Resistance Too High - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8Z0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 8Z0 920 931 D
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D03
Coding: 01135
Shop #: WSC 40947
VCID: 3E74A6D73A6412CE6F-5000
WAUZZZ8Z73N007553 AUZ7Z0B2096903

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8Z0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 8Z0 959 433 M
Component: Komfortgerát T05 0615
Coding: 06720
Shop #: WSC 02154
VCID: 50A8E86F90F094BE8D-49D8

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8Z1959801A
Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0003

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8Z1959802A
Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0003

6 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
80-10 - Single-Wire Operation - Intermittent
01561 - Rear left door
59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
01561 - Rear left door
61-10 - Won't De-Safe - Intermittent
01366 - Opened Due to Crash Signal
35-00 - -
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:12)--------------------------"

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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by RiseAndShine » 24 May 2020 22:05

Har du testat att koppla bort startbatteriet under en kort stund? Kanske kan hjälpa.

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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by lupobupo » 24 May 2020 23:40

Komfortenheten ser ut att ha det klassiska felet med motorolachip som tappar data. Kan ge väldigt många "roliga" fel, som tilltar med tiden.

Airbagfelet, är det återkommande? Har du haft lös ratten?
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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by irover » 25 May 2020 00:54

Radera koderna i accn och kolla vad det blir för några som står kvar.
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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by EjjE » 25 May 2020 19:21

lupobupo wrote:
24 May 2020 23:40
Komfortenheten ser ut att ha det klassiska felet med motorolachip som tappar data. Kan ge väldigt många "roliga" fel, som tilltar med tiden.
Var sitter Motorolachipet? Finns det att få tag i? Svår att byta

Airbagfelet, är det återkommande? Har du haft lös ratten?
Jepp, hade lös ratten, tog lös den idag igen sen satte tillbaka den, blev av med felet.


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Re: A2 vill inte starta

Post by EjjE » 25 May 2020 19:28

Rensat alla DTC i flera omgångar och blivit av med ett par fel, testkörde också, såg att "live" förbrukning stod konstant på 0,0 även när jag stod stilla??

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Monday,25,May,2020,18:26:12:05031
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150904
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ8Z73N007553 License Plate: XEH1455
Mileage: 312220km-194004mi Repair Order:


Chassis Type: 8Z (8Z - Audi A2 (2000 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 18 37 45 46 56 57 75 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ8Z73N007553 Mileage: 312220km-194004miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 045-906-019-ANY.clb
Part No: 045 906 019 D
Component: 1,2l R3 EDC G001DS 1452
Coding: 00005
Shop #: WSC 02154
VCID: 16245E7772943A8E97-4A3A
WAUZZZ8Z73N007553 AUZ7Z0B2096903

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 X X X

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 6N0-927-735.lbl
Part No: 6N0 927 735 D
Component: DS085 Getriebe 3081
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 397EB5CB234A35F65A-0960

No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8Z0-907-379-MK60.lbl
Part No: 8Z0 907 379 C
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Coding: 0019474
Shop #: WSC 02154 785 00200
VCID: 4898C00F38A05C7ED5-5072

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No: 8Z0 820 043 E
Component: A2-KLIMAVOLLAUTOMAT 0512
VCID: 3878B0CF18402CFEA5-254E

3 Faults Found:
00600 - Potentiometer On Positioning Motor for Temperature Flap (G92)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00818 - Sensor for Evaporator Outlet Temperature (G263)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
27-00 - Implausible Signal

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8Z0-959-655.lbl
Part No: 8Z0 959 655 F
Component: Airbag Front+Kopf 5005
Coding: 00302
Shop #: WSC 02154
VCID: 4FAAEB138DCE8B4694-5072

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8Z0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 8Z0 920 931 D
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D03
Coding: 01135
Shop #: WSC 40947
VCID: 3E74A6D73A6412CE6F-5072
WAUZZZ8Z73N007553 AUZ7Z0B2096903

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8Z0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 8Z0 959 433 M
Component: Komfortgerát T05 0615
Coding: 06720
Shop #: WSC 02154
VCID: 50A8E86F90F094BE8D-4A3A

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8Z1959801A
Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0003

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8Z1959802A
Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0003

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:20)--------------------------

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